i just want to know if I can fully access my 8 TB HDD (Seagate Archive) with the USB / SATA Interface.
It’s now connected via SATA to an old Banana PI, and this works fully.
I CAN access fully the 8 TB HDD Seagate Archive, this is very fine!
But the old Device is rather slow and i want to Upgrade to Your Edition.
So can you tell me if this works ?
If you can’t test, just send me for testing your Device and I would do the Test and I would spread the Word in many Forums
No idea whether this still applies to the current test samples or the final product (it’s not even mentioned on the product page that the M3’s SoC isn’t SATA capable), no idea if you SinoVoip people have any clues about USB storage features like UASP (I doubt it), no idea whether the GL830 suffers from the usual 2 TB limitation of bridge chips that were produced back then and no idea what performance you can expect since according to Lion Wang the USB-to-SATA bridge is behind the internal USB hub. The only thing I know for sure is to avoid any of the new boards called “Banana Pi” since there exists no support any longer.
Compared to a BPi M1 the M3’s storage performance will be just a small fraction of what’s possible with the M1. If it’s about I/O performance then the number and speed of CPU cores doesn’t matter that much. The BPi M1’s A20 SoC with its native (and limited) SATA capabilities will easily outperform the M3 if it’s about NAS useage.
The A20 is able to exceed 45/200 MB/s write/read via SATA. With the M3 you are limited to ~30 MB/s under best conditions. Since the USB-to-PATA/SATA bridge has to share bandwidth with other USB ports behind the internal hub things might get even worse if other bandwidth intensive USB peripherals are used.
LOL, if you have a look at the ‘threads’ here http://forum.banana-pi.org/latest most of the stuff is copy&paste from the former ‘community support forum’ (LeMaker community – unfortunately they had to give up the Bananas and now no community any longer exists) or useless OS image release or announcements like which fair SinoVoip joined and so on.
And c’mon: You really doubt that the A20 lacks SATA since you didn’t find a reference on a picture? You should become familiar with the primary information source regarding the devices you sell:
It’s really annoying since some marketing guy trying to flood this forum here with contents inserts really old/outdated contents from time to time. But otherwise there would be nothing at all since user questions aren’t answered appropriately here (this thread being a good example).
Which “converting module” do you use? It’s unbelievable that the M3 is being marketed as “SATA capable” while it’s not, it’s also unbelievable that such informations aren’t part of the ‘specifications’ somewhere and that people have to ask the very same questions over and over again.
There exist so many different USB-to-SATA bridges with different performance and feature sets so it’s necessary to know which one a specific product uses. If Lion Wang’s thread answer in the other horrible forum is still right then we’re speaking about the GL830 (not fully SAT capable, no UASP support, bad performance and maybe also a 2 TB limitation since the chip is rather old)
But you have to keep in mind that on the Orange Pi Plus the GL830 is directly connected to one of the H3’s USB ports while on the M3 it has to share bandwidth with other USB ports since it’s behind a hub. So the bad performance figures you find for the Orange Pi Plus will be even worse with M3.
And please, take there infomations to the specs pages
if you can’t the marketing will do
btw: the M1 hat a SATA Port AND an USB Port, but just on the SATA Port my 8 TB HDD is completely recognised. on the usb the M1 will just recognise 2 or 4 GB.
But HDD’s are still growing, the next will be a 16 TB hdd, becase a 12 is already available.
This has nothing to do with the M1 but only with the USB-to-SATA bridges used in the USB enclosures you tested. From the three bridge chips i listed here http://linux-sunxi.org/USB/UAS#Testing_3_different_external_enclosures both the ASM1051 and the JMS567 are able to access HDDs larger than 4 TB. So the chipset matters. And unfortunately SinoVoip relies on a really outdated chip on the M3
Who are they? The ‘volunteer’ called projectbananapi not being from SinoVoip and doubting the A20 has native SATA?
Have a look at the ‘specs’: SATA(up to 2TB). So these ‘specs’ seem to confirm the words of SinoVoip’s CEO Lion Wang: They use the GL830 or something similar crappy. You can use just 25 percent of your Seagate and the storage performance of the M3 will be only a fraction of the M1’s.
And the funny thing is: Unlike with the M1 or M2 where you can use mainline kernel now and UASP you’re simply lost with the M3 since there is only a horribly outdated kernel 3.4.39 available and mainlining efforts just started. So you’ve to rely on the old and slow USB BOT mode even if you would use an external USB-to-SATA bridge instead of the crappy onboard GL830.