I also tested the “new” echos for changing trip_point values.
My setup is a 55mm fan (PLD06010B12HH 12V 0.40A). The fan is capable of handling 5V and 12V. With 5V it runs slower. But I resoldered the 0Ω resistor on the bottom from R317 to R318. So it runs with 12V.
Yes, it is possible to set different values which effected the fan speed. I “read” how much work this was!
I really like reading and working on the fan topic.
But for me nothing changed. The fan runs the whole time and I can NOT turn the fan off . It is quiet and on the border to be hearable. With one or two meter distance, I would accept this at night (trip_point_1 & trip_point_4)!
During the useage of trip_point_2 & trip_point_3 the fan is too loud. And for the temperature I did not need it. For case usage, I would prefer to do much more holes in the case. Only the last choice would be turn on trip_point_3.
What I need would be manipulating the fan speed of the trip_points or that the fan turns off and on (lowest level <trip_point_1 & trip_point_4>).
If the future brings no advanced possibilities, I will may go back to 5V (fan runs lower) or try to use a resistor instead of 0 Ω resistor (R317 to R318) to lower the speed.
“my results” only show the summary of my attempts. The question was how to find out what every trip_point causes. I don’t want spend more time than i have to on this topic. So I had to found a temperature that activated only one trip_point per try.
I’m hoping you understand it now. The other trip points are at 99,999°C and will not be activated. I could also take 10000 (10°C) or 20000 (20°C) → the purpose was to activete trip_point_4.
For presenting the results I have done the followed:
My tests showed that the fan runs faster during the active trip_point_2 and lower at trip_point_3 (lowest was 1&4). I also find out, in case if you use the same temperature trip_point_2 will be activated!!!
I recently bought this self-adhesive thermal pad in combination with Skived Heat Sink which I still got to cut to dimensions. Worth to note that I 3D printed a case where all three parts, especially when it comes to ensuring the heat sink doesn’t fall off causing damage to the board, must be adjusted accordingly.
not on the wifi chips, there are only 2 pads in the kit…anyway my temp is always below 50°c and my fan never start…or it starts but I never hear it even though it’s 1 meter away from my head
as you can see below, even with no thermal pad, and no contact between the wifi chips and the radiator, the temp never reach 50°c, My office is actually at 20°c
Ok.
I have put thermal pads over each chip under the official fan.
Cpu is running with a stable 44/45 º C.
Mt7915_phy0 shows a wrong temperature, but I can live with it
I think it’s a shame that more conservative defaults are not applied since the case was fairly warm to the touch and could have damaged my system eventually… in other words: out of the box configs should not self-destruct the router
Sorry, i made a mistake when upstreaming the r3 thermal part dts due to my 3rd party pwm was not working with r3.
But you should be aware that mainline software support is done by only a few people,mainly daniel (also openwrt),wifi/hw offloading from lorenzo and some basic parts from me. These are development boards
Argh, sorry for my harsh word actually, “shame” is a bit too strong in this context, I should have used “pity”. If you show me how to modify the dts, I’d be happy to PR the changes to OpenWRT as penitence
Thanks Frank and others to maintain/fix those systems, I totally appreciate the efforts… I bought that board, so at least, I hope that helped somehow
because of looking for a new PWM fan, I also thought about a new heatsink … . I know there is a fan for R3 but I may want to work with thermal paste. At the end it could be that I create a fansink which covers the whole area including SFP and 4G cellular modem. But this is just a dream…
Anyway, I tried to measure more exactly the chips height beneath the heatsink. I still have no digital caliper. But I got the information from internet and from a “piece of paper measurement”.
I know it sounds crazy, but after one day of thinking (How could I find something in my room that could measure in 0.1 mm steps), I realized and find out, that a piece of paper (HP Premium 90g/m^2) has 0.12 mm thickness . And because of the plain surface of the chips it is possible to use a ruler to get the differences between package heights.
YES, crazy!
The measurement results matches really good with the information from internet.
These is the summary:
The minimal thermal pad thickness is 0,5 mm (MT7531AE blue). After covering the chip packages surface with thermal pads, the heights should be 2,1 mm at all chips.
If something is wrong (heights, package, dimension), please write back to me!
Finding the dimensions of the different chip packages was not easy. It would be good if Banana pi could upload this data to the wiki.
I learned some things about my fan(s) and frank’s post at R4 topic pushed me a bit:
First of all, I learnd that not only the PWM signal on the board is importand. I learnd that a PWM fan has microships inside which can effect the result.
I have two fans. This are my results overview with 5V and 12V:
As I understood, the recommendation for peak-cpu temp of the MediaTek MT7986 is <= 85°C.
So I don’t understand the limits of 115 and 120°C.
Shouldn’t the device already switch itself off if the CPU temperature rises above 90°C?
The 115/120°C is for emergecy switch off. But these shoild not be hanfled with fan like post above. Fan imho should only be used with temperatures below 100°C.